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I also agree that it's kinda bogus to just talk to the open air, and for people to have thousands of followers and to not follow them back.
Jim
From January: Why I Stopped Using IM and Won't Use Twitter
http://www.louisgray.com/live/2007/01/why-i-sto...
That's what I do, and I love it. Then again, I only have about a dozen friends :-)
Another person is a well know tech columnist for ZDnet, and he is an IT specialist with good articles; his tweets? "I am making pork chops" Give me break
Now, the Demon Bride of Twitter is at the airport in DC and tweets, 'I am at the airport near the food court',, and although I never met the young lady, I have read her blog on Jewish conversion, and she is great writer and seems to be a good soul.
I see her updating her locations, and I send her a message, 'honey, be careful what you send out there, there a lot of bad out there.". Cat stevens - right?
It also has brought a new concept to my mind on handling all these new voices at onces. That'll take a bit of time to get used to.
Twitter is a time-sink, and it is a pioneering social network. That is one reason I'll stick with it though and see where it takes me next.
Regards,
Rick
IMO You'll lose more than you'll gain by not paying attention to the trend toward mobile communications, which is what Twitter embodies.
Twitter encourages sloppy thinking and discourse. Twitter writers rarely think long enough to compose their ideas or fully form their arguments.
Twitter does not foster conversation. It fosters a series of quips and glib one liners.
http://twitter.com/republicblog
http://tinyurl.com/2r8wbt
Watch the A-list with something to sell, and they do it VERY well, even if by reflex.
However, I think there are a few applications where twitter can be very useful.
- To follow your actual friends and keep up with their lives (as John Z stated)
- To find good links (digg is dying and good link sharing can be hard to come by)
- To quickly gauge interest/feedback on a topic (real-time polling)
I do agree Twitter can be exhausting, but like most apps it's how you use the tool, not what the tool doesn't do for you.
On the other hand, while I don't use twitter on my cell, I do visit it a few times a day. You're right in what you said about the 'tech' crowd. One of the best vehicles I've found to see what's on other people minds before writing a piece (and also to promote a bit).
The biggest drawback (only?) that I've found is that not enough people follow you back. If you do, you can gain some real insight (at times), as well as discover interesting stories and info that nobody's talking about.
It's time management for me but no compulsive twittering?
ps, I got here from a tweet from twitter.com/delicioso ping!
There are good points to what you say. I used to think I had to read and keep up with each and every tweet. But I realized just because twittering, like life, goes on non-stop 24/7 with your followers all the time, doesn't mean you have to be present and alert for each and every tweet. When I have the time, I watch it, and when I don't I've ceased to worry about what I am missing. It's definitely brought me closer to folks that were only distant acquaintances, especially because of the real-time interactive nature compared to blogging. For friends that have a blog, keeping in contact that way certainly works - but more and more of my friends are not bloggers. But 140 characters, they can fit in from time to time.
I totally agree that face-to-face is by far the best form of communication, but that isn't always geographically feasible. Twitter hasn't taken time away from real life interactions - but it has cut into my blogging, and that's okay by me.
twitter has too much noise when you add anyone that adds you... be more deliberate and twitter has real utility.
going a step deeper...you also can divide those you follow into web-only updates and SMS notices...that too can make a difference in the utility.
YOU control the utility... saying twitter is a massive waste of time only points to your application of the tool...not to the app itself.
I have had some troubling experiences lately, including a follower whose Facebook status said he was creating a voodoo doll in my image. I spent a few hours scrolling through old tweets and FB status messages to find out what on earth I had done to offend him and I am still wondering. I finally got a hold of myself and realized it didn't matter since he wasn't someone I would have anything to do with if I knew him in real life.
I disagree with this statement from your post: "But it does make me wonder whether it will ever catch on beyond geeks who thrive on spending massive quantities of their lives on the web." I think the opposite is true. Twitter is getting to be too much to handle precisely because it IS catching on. It's just not catching on with anyone particularly interesting. It's starting to feel like a fading former hot spot that's been discovered by the riff raff. It's starting to feel less safe.
Maybe that's too harsh. Through Twitter I have "met" a number of wonderful people that I have come to care about because I know so much about the little things in their life. But I want them in the foreground, not the background.
It's grown out of control, much like the marketers of MySpace who have 10's of thousands of "friends" who they use to push their messages to their profile pages.
I use it as a great way to integrate my thoughts into my WordPress blog and watch a few people that I've found interesting. Every now and then I'll get an email notification from someone I don't know, who is following me. I'll check out their Twitter page and it's nothing but marketing crap. I block them. When those kinds of users take over Twitter, that's when I will stop using Twitter.
For now, it serves its purpose and I'm happy with it. Plus I love the 3rd party development going on, myself included.
Gosh, I'm sure missing out on how *useful* Twitter is to average people who have thousands of "followers".
Yeah, I think that about sums it up for me and my thoughts on "lifecasting". Good post Scott!
I seems like this "giving up" is more of waiting for something better to come along. I tried out Twitter, and ultimately it felt like another place for me to put content in and rebuild my social graph.
I am waiting for a product that will be *less* work for me, not more. A product that will give me more than it takes. I know people have all sorts of ideas about what "web 3.0" means, but that's what it means to me - a web app that has all the social capability of 2.0 with the added benefit of giving me a call to action that I care about.
Don't smoke and don't do drugs, no booze either.
You just have to learn to contain yourself!
Twitter is a fairly safe addiction. I'm probably addicted. Well I say I'm not, but others around me say I am and I think that is a clear sign I am.
I use Twitter for feedback on many issues, work related, but also "private" stuff. I use it to write things off my back and for fun. And I met a lot of nice similar minded people.
For people with a busy schedule I think Twitter has a lot of added value for the short amounts of time in between. But you have to be a little strict with yourself. Don't get sucked in too much.
While you're at it try using Mobypicture with it. This saves you a lot of time. You can show your friends what you are doing instead of typing it :)
http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/twitte...
For the most part I used it as a "personal press release tool". I don't think it of much value to say I'm eating a tuna sandwich but I will say I am going to so and so coffee shop, in addition to getting work done I could meet a local follower in real life and may get a potential client, etc. Sure, I may say I'm waiting on a camera lens to be delivered but it also gives a subtle hint that I'm a photographer. I've seen my tweets indexed by Google and that has build up SEO for myself and links back to my site.
As someone who practices writing I have learned to write for brevity as I can often become too long winded like this comment here!
Seriously, it's no different that when people started creating personal home pages on Geocites, Angelfire and Homestead. A LOT of people did nothing but fill them with crazy animated .gifs, horrible backgrounds, etc. That was the "kicking the tires" stages. Many are kicking the tires with his, some will just walk away while others become great drivers.
Yes, it can be a waste of time if you use it to "waste time" but like most things it can be useful as well.
Lately, it has filled up with a lot more people just coming for a look-see, and is no longer as interesting as it was when populated only by early populars. But since those pioneers only talked about tech and Twitter itself or blogged about their baby feedings or whatever, more waves will come in specific fields and networks where it will get interesting again.
A good international or domestic US politics Twitter network, for example, just hasn't appeared yet, despite some politicians getting on it and spamming it now and then.
I think what you mean to say is that for you, as an early pioneer, the wave has passed and it's not interesting. I find far less interesting posts on it than I used to just because it has way more people on it than before and they tend to have less interesting things to say en masse, so I have to work at culling it more -- and I don't make the time for it.
Still, for my niche of following the tech talk on social media itself and the subset of Second Life, it's my chief news source for now.
Of course they are those who, so full of beans and a flatulent regard of themselves, that they want to be in the center,
"A waste of time?" Only if you *let* Twitter be a waste of time. The beautiful thing about all the online time-wasters is you can get away from them by simply logging off.
IM is intrusive enough, email I can answer when I want any time via my phone. Or anyone can just call me on my cell which is usually turned on 24/7. Why do I have to be updated by some windbags every time a stupid thought comes into his/her head... I'd rather have a meaningful one on one conversation with you than fragments and LOL 140 character constant updates.
I happen to agree that Twitter is alot of noise, but like the fact that it is intergrated with IM / Mobile tech.
I prefer blogs as they tend to be more considered, but think that Twitter is more of a comms platform.
Insight has been and always will be rare. People now are more informed on pop culture, and less informed on critical thinking and knowledge application, than ever before in history. It's easy to mistake junk for knowledge.
Besides, I don't have enough time to blog anyway.
Scott, some of us miss you at Twitter. Especially for wise tweets like this:
http://twitter.com/scottkarp/statuses/221486382
Peace to your day!
http://twitter.com/BarbaraKB
It is a very interesting idea if you look at it as an RSS feed into the life of posters. Just like blogs, there are A LOT of very bad blogs but you have to read some of them to find the gems.
However, from a personal stand-point I have to agree with Scott. It is going to become cool, jump the shark, and then die a painful death (i.e. MySpace).
http://bizcast.typepad.com/clients/2007/12/the-...
it makes too many message that's Garbage?
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>> But the noise to signal ratio is WAY too high.
Sorry, but a high SNR is better than a low SNR, at least in it´s technical meaning...
:-P
">> But the noise to signal ratio is WAY too high.
Sorry, but a high SNR is better than a low SNR, at least in it´s technical meaning…"
You have to learn to read better, Einmensch238; the author wrote exactly the opposite of your quote of him, i.e. the NOISE to signal ration is way too high (not: the SIGNAL to noise ratio).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4FuOZQKRtE
I do this with plazer on location related information... but this just updates my location automatically. In the rare occasion I find a new plaze I add it quickly an decide later if I want to add additinal infromation.
But twitter seems to be a great way to use it for live comments on some special live events (like it was done on on Lotusphere OGS).
I found a similar use for it. I added twitter to my blog (http://shadowbj21.blogspot.com/) and use it for live updating on special events (esp. in conjunction with the SMS capability) ... in my case it will be nothing tech related (poker tournaments) ;-)
I'm very interested to put this technology into a social network about a specific subject.
Pallavi
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Its not for all. I just evaluated it and came to know that the guys whom I was following never replied back and few were following me. But why?